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palominocorn ([personal profile] palominocorn) wrote2022-05-12 01:50 pm

How fast is this fandom going to turn once it's deemed "problematic"?

"It's so wholesome!"

It has scenes of two of the main characters creating mountains of corpses (literally in one case), a woman and child finding their husband/father's mangled body in the aftermath of an explosion, a kid and a dog both being tortured, gruesome scenes of war, and more.

How did "wholesome" become solely about relationships?
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[personal profile] stardust_rifle 2022-05-13 01:21 am (UTC)(link)
Bad News: Judging from my experience with Weeb Anti Fandom Progression Mode Type 1, Spy X Family fandom is probably going to be glutted with antis for a while.

Good News: Also judging from my experience with Weeb Anti Fandom Progression Mode Type 1, these antis will eventually move on once something newer and shinier catches their eye, leaving you with an ultimately quieter (though not entirely anti-free) fandom.

Better News: Those kinds of hard-and-quick Steven Universe-style turns don't tend to happen in weeb fandoms as much as they do in fandoms for Western media, so you're probably safe there.
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[personal profile] stardust_rifle 2022-05-13 01:19 pm (UTC)(link)
There are basically two that I've noticed. Progression Mode 1 involves antis rapidly bouncing between New Hot Fandoms and then leaving them when the hype dies down. They usually make an effort to get in early so that they can "set the tone" for the fandom. They make it miserable while they're there, but once they've moved on, the fandom is largely going to be fine-ish.

Progression Mode 2 involves antis picking out more niche media (in my experience 99% of the time this is a gacha game fandom, but this could just be because I'm IN a lot of those fandoms) and sticking there like glue. They will set up camp, and they will not move from their spot. If they find a shiny new fandom, they will add it to the List Of Things They're Into and not move fandoms whole-shop. I've noticed that antis who stick to Progression Mode 2 tend to be much more likely to be into MOGAI stuff and microlabels (though not necessarily full inclusionists, they still hate mspec lesbians/gays), as well as being much more likely to spout off fucking bizarre discourse talking points with little connection with reality (THE COOKIES ARE UNDERAGE, the yandere trope is ableist against people with bpd)

Remember how SU was praised wildly as Teh Bestest And Most Progressivest Show (that you should be watching instead of whatever you're into) by people on Tumblr before the "SU critical" crowd really took over and it wound up on everyone's DNIs? Yeah, that kind of hard-and-fast turn doesn't really happen all that much in weeb fandom.