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"Tallanah will abandon her post as sunhawk to chase some mediocre guy who's still in love with a woman he hasn't seen in several years, but won't help you save the world" is really disappointing character development.
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Okay, I forgot how much of a snarky, all-loathing jerk Aloy was in the first game.
If she detests everyone so much, and sees everything aside from her hunt of the Eclipse to be a worthless distraction, why is she bothering with the hunting grounds, side quests, and so on?
It's like the TTRPG That Guy: it's your responsibility as a writer to create a character who would realistically do what the game is having them do!
If she detests everyone so much, and sees everything aside from her hunt of the Eclipse to be a worthless distraction, why is she bothering with the hunting grounds, side quests, and so on?
It's like the TTRPG That Guy: it's your responsibility as a writer to create a character who would realistically do what the game is having them do!
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My curmudgeonly opinion is that the Horizon games are not RPGs, they're adventure games.
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Having watched my spouse finish this game, I suspect I'll probably get into really enjoying it around the halfway mark.
But why would I put in another forty-something hours into a game to get to the fun part when I can just play BG3 or Pillars or Dogma, games that I find fun from the start?
But why would I put in another forty-something hours into a game to get to the fun part when I can just play BG3 or Pillars or Dogma, games that I find fun from the start?
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It bums me out to say, but I'm really not enjoying Forbidden West so far.
Aloy's "culture and religion are bad" was tolerable in the first game, where the cultures she was fighting against were a. Nora, who kicked her out for being born wrong and b. Carja, who sacrificed thousands of people for no particular reason. Now she's doing it just for the sake of doing it, and the whole thing has a very Nu Atheist layer of grossness on top.
And honestly, I feel like this game has a whole bunch of little "fuck you" moments scattered throughout. Climable structures that fall apart when you try grabbing on, bits of loot and quest gated by equipment you don't have yet, ffs there's a firegleam that has a ravager hidden behind it at one point. Plus all the chaff: if I want 100% completion I need to spend 3x more time doing random activities than quests.
Aloy's "culture and religion are bad" was tolerable in the first game, where the cultures she was fighting against were a. Nora, who kicked her out for being born wrong and b. Carja, who sacrificed thousands of people for no particular reason. Now she's doing it just for the sake of doing it, and the whole thing has a very Nu Atheist layer of grossness on top.
And honestly, I feel like this game has a whole bunch of little "fuck you" moments scattered throughout. Climable structures that fall apart when you try grabbing on, bits of loot and quest gated by equipment you don't have yet, ffs there's a firegleam that has a ravager hidden behind it at one point. Plus all the chaff: if I want 100% completion I need to spend 3x more time doing random activities than quests.
What the game tells: Oseram culture is extremely sexist. Women can't be in positions or authority or even get recognition for their work.
What the game shows: no sexist commentary or action from any Oseram you meet in the game. The most prominent Oseram drinks Respect Women almost as much as he drinks booze. Multiple female Oseram in positions of authority.
What the game shows: no sexist commentary or action from any Oseram you meet in the game. The most prominent Oseram drinks Respect Women almost as much as he drinks booze. Multiple female Oseram in positions of authority.
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...if they'd made Aloy a Woman of Color, they could've added some subtextual analysis about the commodification and demonization of Women of Color in women's spaces.
What with the two matriarchs who make an impact on the plot both being light-skinned-probably-white and the Nora being a matriarchal society.
What with the two matriarchs who make an impact on the plot both being light-skinned-probably-white and the Nora being a matriarchal society.
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There's a whole giant field of big mirrors and GILDUN ISN'T HERE?!?!
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By Nora law, my grandma could've been a High Matriarch for the last fifteen years of her life.
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Spouse: What would happen if you had Eder and Erend switch places?
Me: Almost nothing. The only difference is that Erend is in love with you and Eder is emphatically not.
Me: Almost nothing. The only difference is that Erend is in love with you and Eder is emphatically not.
Was anyone going to tell me that the ravager machine in Horizon was based on a transformer.
Or was I supposed to figure it out myself from an ACAB post.
Or was I supposed to figure it out myself from an ACAB post.
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The fact that Aloy is a white (conventionally attractive, skinny, able-bodied, young) woman who goes around disparaging tradition and culture and wrecking people's religions in the name of saving the world all while carrying around a (justified in universe) complex about her own genetic superiority, it, uh.
It bad.
It bad.
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Aloy is like.
Simo Häyhä levels of pure raining death on people.
Simo Häyhä levels of pure raining death on people.
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So this Tilda person... Elisabet's ex-girlfriend... or her ex-wife?
Those are the only two possible options.
Those are the only two possible options.
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Gildun is alive! And still causing massive structural damage in his excitement over shiny things, I see.
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Aloy has the WORST case of Protagonist Syndrome I've ever seen.
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Whatshisname... the dude with the gliding electro shield... he really done goofed by challenging Aloy to single combat.
I mean they had the high ground and a bunch of machines. They could have turned her and Varl into flaming pincushions. Instead he got all high and mighty about how own abilities and got himself killed, which meant Aloy and Varl survived another day.
I mean they had the high ground and a bunch of machines. They could have turned her and Varl into flaming pincushions. Instead he got all high and mighty about how own abilities and got himself killed, which meant Aloy and Varl survived another day.
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I know Aloy's complexion is red from sun exposure, but also...
...every time I see her in the new game I want to yell "WHAT ARE YOU DOING UP AND ABOUT, THAT IS A BUTTERFLY RASH, YOU HAVE LUPUS, GO REST!"
...have I been sick too long?
...every time I see her in the new game I want to yell "WHAT ARE YOU DOING UP AND ABOUT, THAT IS A BUTTERFLY RASH, YOU HAVE LUPUS, GO REST!"
...have I been sick too long?
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Oh crap, Avad is definitely going to die in this game, isn't he?
Also I am just now realizing that if Gaia really is the super-smart AI she's said to be, she would not have just made one Elisabet clone.
She would have made like twenty.
Also I am just now realizing that if Gaia really is the super-smart AI she's said to be, she would not have just made one Elisabet clone.
She would have made like twenty.
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Two takeaways from Horizon: Forbidden West so far.
Everyone wants a piece of Aloy.
Dr. Sobek looks almost exactly like my doctor, down to the haircut.
Everyone wants a piece of Aloy.
Dr. Sobek looks almost exactly like my doctor, down to the haircut.
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